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by Jeremy, staff writer 7/13/05
DP Columns / Jeremy The Loner
Interview With Actor Dean Cameron

 
Dean Cameron is smart enough to know that he isn't a household name. He probably should be, but he isn't. Never mind the fact that he's been a successful, working actor for more than two decades. Never mind the fact that he's been in countless sitcoms and movies, some of them classics. When you visit his website at www.DeanCameron.com, the first thing you'll notice is that it's entitled "Hey, you're that guy!" It's almost like he KNOWS that you won't know him by name, but sure as shit, you'll recognize his face. And I've got to say, it's easy to imagine him getting plenty of that when he walks down the street; you can just see some dude glancing at him, doing a double take and yelling "Hey, you! I know you! You're that guy from *fill in the blank*!"

So, you still don't know who Dean Cameron is? Sure you do. Maybe you'll recognize him as the Pizza Delivery Guy from the Emilio Estevez/Charlie Sheen comedy Men At Work. Or maybe you were hunting for some tits and ass on late night cable and you happened across Cameron in the movie Ski School. Maybe you'd recognize him as one of the stars of the movie Bad Dreams-- or you happened to catch him doing one of his many guest appearances on sitcoms like Alf and Will & Grace. But if you were like most of us growing up in the 80's, you'll best remember Dean as Francis "Chainsaw" Gremp in the classic comedy Summer School. (A-ha, I just sensed many, many lightbulbs clicking on in heads all over our fair land.)

I can honestly say that I don't know one person who doesn't love Summer School. What's not to love? You had Mark Harmon at his funniest and most studliest, a pre-Scientology, still hot Kirstie Alley, the younger, sexier versions of Courtney Thorne-Smith and Shawnee Smith, that smokin' hot chick who played the foreign exchange student Anna-Maria... and best of all, you had Dean Cameron and Gary Riley as the best comedy duo since Cheech and Chong... Chainsaw and Dave. The end result was one of those movies that you've seen a million times, but still watch every time it comes on. It's the type of movie you can watch with a friend while quoting dialogue back and forth during the whole damn thing, annoying everybody else in the room. It also happens to be the movie that sentenced Dean Cameron to being known as "Chainsaw" for the rest of his natural life--but hell, is that such a bad thing? I think not.

I must say, though, if you're under the impression that Dean did Summer School and just dropped off the face of the earth, guess again. Check out his profile on IMDB.com if you don't believe me--this guy's been in EVERYTHING, man. He also does plenty of voice over work in TV commercials, hawking everything from Suzukis to Honeybaked Ham. Acting isn't his only shtick, either. Dean plays bass in a rock band called The Thornbirds (formerly known as The Ducks), who are currently working on their second album. I've only heard a little of their music, but the curious among you can check out their first CD on Amazon. In addition to the band, Dean has also put together a comedy stage show based on... get this... the Nigerian e-mail scam. (No, I'm not kidding.) I'm sure you've all gotten this type of "urgent" e-mail before--in fact, there's probably one sitting in your inbox right now. It goes like this; the scammers claim to have tons of money in their possession, money the Nigerian government wants to "seize" from them. So, they ask to transfer some of said money into your personal bank account, where the evil government can't get to it. In exchange for this selfless act, they'll give you a shitload of cash to keep for yourself. Isn't that sweet? Of course, in order to do this, they'll need all of your account information--and should you be dumb enough to provide it, you'll be in for quite a surprise the next time you try to withdraw some of your money from the ATM. A very unpleasant surprise, as it turns out.

Now, there's plenty of variations on this scam. Sometimes it goes just as I described above, sometimes they tell you that you've won some kind of foreign "lottery." Either way, only the truly, truly stupid members of the populace fall for this bullshit... and if you're THAT stupid, you have no business having money in the first place. Most people just delete e-mail like this. Some people (like myself) like to fuck with them. Dean Cameron is definitely a member of the "let's fuck with them" crowd,  but believe me, he took it to a whole other level; not only did he fuck with them, he managed to develop a humorous stage show based solely on his correspondence with the scammers. Take a look at the website at www.spamscamscam.com for the whole story. (The e-mail exchanges he has with these guys are fucking hilarious, and definitely worth a read.) And if you happen to be visiting the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in Scotland during the month of August, 2005, make sure you check out the show--and don't forget your kilt, you bastards.

As you can probably tell, Dean has a lot of stuff on his plate at the moment. In addition to many things already mentioned, he also has a link for his personal "wacky political tantrum" (his words, not mine), which can be found at www.securityedition.com. Don't ask questions. Just click the damn link.

Dean also happens to be a really funny guy, and in my opinion, a great interview. Read on and enjoy!

JTL: What genre of music does your band The Thornbirds fall under? And since you guys actually play your own instruments, don't you worry that your music might not be suitable for modern listeners?
Dean Cameron: I like to describe the Thornbirds' music as "Heavy Cheap Trick". Great melodies played loudly and well. As far as modern listeners goes... we just did a gig in Portland at the Warped Tour. Most of the children there did *not* get it. It was an amazing experience. We actually have a record in record stores and our label, Warrior Records, has good distribution and loves us so much that even though they have yet to earn a dime, they're footing the bill for record #2.
JTL: Are you genuinely serious about a career in music? I mean, this isn't just one of those "actor wants to be a rock star" vanity projects (ala Keanu Reeves and Dogstar), is it?
Dean Cameron: It's true; every actor thinks they can play music and every musician is under the impression that they can act and it rarely turns out well. I don't know. I just do what I do and am hopeful that it's okay. Since I'm not writing the stuff in this band, I don't know how much of a vanity project one could call it. Perhaps if I was insane, I could refer to it as my vanity project. Hmmm.
JTL: I realize that you're married now, but I have to know... what gig scores better groupies, the acting thing or the music thing? Please tell me. I need this.
Dean Cameron: For me it was definitely acting. Definitely. Holy cow.
JTL: Does having "the guy who played Chainsaw" in the band help you to get more gigs? If I were you, I'd be exploiting the hell out of it.
Dean Cameron: I don't think so. Actually, two of the guys in the band are in "Metal Skool" which is a parody of 80's metal. (I directed their video) Having them has actually helped The Thornbirds. Go figure.
JTL: A lot of us love to fuck with the Nigerian spammers, but you've turned it into an art form. Your e-mail exchanges with the spammers put mine to shame. How did you ever come up with the idea of turning it into a stage show? Was there weed involved? And what kind of stuff do you do in the show?
Dean Cameron: When I started fucking with them, I was sending the correspondence around to friends who, after about a month of the insanity, began mentioning that it could be a show. We (me and Victor Isaac, the "Nigerian") did a try-out of it at this weird late-night thing in L.A. and it killed. Proof of concept, as it were, so with the help of Paul Provenza, I whittled the 90 pages of correspondence down to a lean and mean 25 pages and now we have a killer 55 minute program. The show is me and Victor behind music stands with laptop computers on them "interpreting" the letters. There are slides of photos sent and received and I play excerpts from two phone calls I made where I talk to the scammer in my character. The character being a lonely, sexually ambiguous millionairewho lives in Florida with Kwan, his young Asian houseboy and his cats, Mister Snickers and JoJo the Dancing Clown.

We were invited to play the Edinburgh Fringe Festival in Scotland last August and it was a solid hit, so they're having us back this August in a bigger theater and better deal and all that stuff. It's pretty exciting, though living in Scotland for a month can be, well, um, rotten. After two weeks, it's an endurance contest.

After we got back last year, we ran for four months here in L.A. and we're trying to get it off-broadway next spring. It's so nuts that this time-waster while I was doing a t.v. show turned in to a "thing" that I've been working on for over two years. That's showbiz, I suppose.
JTL: Forgive me, but I need to ask a few questions about "Summer School." However... I PROMISE not to ask whether or not you got to bang the chick who played Anna-Maria. I'm... uh... sure you get that quite a lot, don't you?
Dean Cameron: Thank you, and in return, I promise not to tell you who I ended up "banging" from that movie, either!
JTL: Bastard! Anyway, I was really bummed when I found out that you didn't get along with Gary Riley, the guy who played Dave. Onscreen, you guys made a great comedic team. Off-screen, you said the two of you argued most of the time. Seriously, what was up with that? And what the hell was there to argue about, anyway? You were making a hilarious movie and you were surrounded by hot women!
Dean Cameron: We got along, but not as much as either of us would've liked, I think. We didn't argue most of the time. We just had one big argument early in to the shooting and that sort of informed our relationship for the next 8 weeks. He's a good guy and a lot of the tension was us being young and wanting to do a good job.
JTL: You've gotta give us one good Mark Harmon story.That guy was such a stud, I damn near wanted him...and I'm straight!

Dean Cameron: 2 of the 3 following stories are fact. That was the year that he was People magazine's "Sexiest Man Alive". In the scene where he walks in wearing a suit with the mission to make us really buckle down and study, I ad-libbed on his close-up "Wow, you look like the sexiest man alive!!!" He finished the take and then chased me out of the room, got me in a headlock and punched me a few times. All in good fun, but I certainly got the message.

I grew up in Oklahoma so I chewed tobacco for a long time. I had quit, but he liked to have a chew now and then, so we'd sit and chew Red Man.

Mark Harmon gives really, really good head and is sort of a size queen.

JTL: How much ad-libbing did you guys get to do on the set? I've heard Carl Reiner is great at directing actors, especially in comedic roles.

Dean Cameron: I got to do a lot of ad-libbing. A whole lot. Carl Reiner spoiled me. He would only shoot from 10am to 6pm and he'd let me ad lib. Turns out that's not how it usually goes.The weird thing about working with Carl Reiner was that he would tell stories about hanging out with his friends and you'd realize halfway in that he was talking about people like Mel Brooks, Dick Van Dyke, Sid Caeser, Imogene Coca and Mary Tyler Moore during the golden age of television. It became surreal. He wasn't name dropping, he was just talking about his buddies and his life.

JTL: You've made guest appearances on every sitcom known to man, everything from "Will & Grace" to "Alf." Here's a few things I've been wondering;

1) When you did the episode of "Facts Of Life," who was hotter in person, Nancy McKeon or Lisa Whelchel? I was a Blair man myself...

Dean Cameron: I'd had a crush on Lisa Whelchel when she was on the Mickey Mouse Show so I was  also a "Blair Man". But, they'd been doing the show for a million years and, well, you know... there are snacks around when you work on T.V. I'd ad libbed a funny line that ended up being written in to the script but one of the girls felt it drew attention away from "the scene" so they ended up cutting all my lines. Sorta cunty.

JTL: 2) Helen Hunt had a "diva" (God, I hate that word) reputation on the "Mad About You" set. Was she cool to you?
Dean Cameron: I'd known her through mutual friends for many, many years and she was always really nice to me. Actually, she was nice to everyone, at least the couple of weeks I was on the show. Maybe she was trying to impress me. Who knows!?
JTL: 3) Other than the puppet having all the best lines, why did being on "Alf" suck? Too much drama on the set?
Dean Cameron: They were all crazy. They'd been working with a puppet for 7 years and every week, the scripts started out great and ended up sucking and then the puppet would get all of their good lines. It was a very dysfunctional family. But that's what is soooo great about showbiz. You get great stories from shit like that and my favorite showbiz story is from working on "Alf." No, I won't share it with you. Not until everyone involved (except me) is dead.
JTL: You auditioned for another 80's classic comedy,"Fast Times At Ridgemont High," with your friend Eric Stoltz. (A terrific actor, by the way.) He landed the part of one of Spicoli's stoner buds, while you came up empty. Later on, though, you landed the Spicoli role in the TV version of "Fast Times." Did you honestly think that show had a chance of taking off, or was it a "where's my paycheck" situation?
Dean Cameron: Everyone in Hollywood wanted to know who was going to play Spicoli. It took almost 6 months to cast the show. I read for it 10 times at least. (Keanu was up for the part, too, by the way). I had only done one regular role in one other series and needed to get a lead in a show. I couldn't be choosy back then. This was a great opportunity and really put me on the map in Hollywood and got me a lot of attention. That it only ran 7 episodes was a bonus. Getting the part in "Summer School" was directly related to me being in Fast Times.
JTL: Despite being a great comedic and character actor, you're always going to be known as the guy who was in"Summer School" and "Ski School," at least to a certain extent. Does that piss you off at all, or is being an actor who still gets plenty of work good enough for you? The fact is, you've been steadily working on TV and in films since the 80's.
Dean Cameron: It used to bum me out a bit, but now I think it's fine. This morning a bunch of people emailed me that they're doing a remake of "Summer School." That seems really stupid, as it was pretty much a reworking of about 500 other movies but I guess one could look at it being remade as a good thing. I get recognized every day from something (usually a "school movie") and that's pretty cool. I still make my living in showbiz, mainly from voiceovers, and that was always my goal. I'm also happy with the progression of my work. I think it's gotten better and better as I've gotten older. It's neat to have a record of the last 25 years on film.
JTL: So, what's up next for you? Anything we should be on the lookout for?
Dean Cameron: I'm directing a show this fall called Bukowsical. It's a fake backers audition for a lousy musical (is there any other kind) about Charles Bukowski. Other than that, it's just the usual stuff: I wrote a movie called "Hollywood Palms" that got made a few years ago and it's finally seeing the light on DVD. I'm really proud of it. I think it's been on Showtime a few times, too. My crazy political art tantrum project: securityedition.com. The Nigerian Spam Scam Scam show: spamscamscam.com. I will continue to delude myself and others that I am a professional musician with the thornbirds: thornbirds.net. I directed a video for metal skool and I'm hoping to do a couple more with them: metalskool.com. I'm doing a really fun music project called Corey-oke. It's a karaoke *band*. We play rotten 80's hits, dress up as 80's guys (I'm Corey Feldman, the guitarist is Corey Haim, the drummer is Corey Hart) and people get up and sing with a real, live band. It is a blast and completely pointless. I also wrote and directed a short film called "glutton falls" which I think is really great but has been getting rejected by each and every film festival around the world. I may just end up posting it on deancameron.com. Rock on.

JTL: Well, that's the way to do an interview! Mark Harmon gives great head, folks... you heard it here first! Thanks so much, Dean! I haven't laughed that hard since I saw myself naked in the bathroom mirror this morning. (Of course, I started crying immediately afterwards.)

Since Dean was cool enough to answer my dumb questions, the least you assholes can do is click on his links and help me pimp his shit. For what it's worth, these are actually links worth clicking on, so it all works out;

Dean's official site: www.DeanCameron.com
The Thornbirds site: www.TheThornbirds.net
The Nigerian Scam site: www.spamscamscam.com
Metal Skool's site:  www.MetalSkool.com
Wacky political shit: www.securityedition.com

Keep on rockin' those Cool Dude shades...

-JTL

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